Ernst Naezer and Flavia Sequeira are experienced speakers, who bring in creativity and originality on a broad range of topics. They are not shy of large and small audiences. They are software engineers turned architects turned designers turned good thinkers. And love technology that makes a difference in society, business and organizations. They have been involved with APIs at ING bank from its inception days and have participated in this journey as a trainer, designer and developer. In their current role, they shape API Thinking. They truly believe that mixing people from different backgrounds is what creates progress. And love their coffee black, in single shots.